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troops in afghanistan. the top question among them is one a top u.s. military officer wouldn't answer: will we get paid?" end of quote. admiral mullen went on to say, "i don't know the teens that question, but either way, those soldiers" he said, "all of us must continue to work every day." mr. president, this is really unacceptable. a country as rich and powerful as ours, men and women with bombs going off around them, shouldn't worry about whether this country will leave them high and dry. this afternoon i asked those who said they will never compromise on any terms to think about who their stubbornness will really hurt: seniors, soldiers, and others. i've spoken to the vice president this morning, a couple of times. he's home -- of course we have to be hopeful -- that we're close to an agreement with republican leaders. the framework of this agreement is based on new ideas and some old ideas. after speaking with the republican leader, mitch mcconnell, this morning, we're cautiously optimistic. there are a number of issues yet to be resolved and we m
troops in afghanistan. the top question among them is one a top u.s. military officer wouldn't answer: will we get paid?" end of quote. admiral mullen went on to say, "i don't know the teens that question, but either way, those soldiers" he said, "all of us must continue to work every day." mr. president, this is really unacceptable. a country as rich and powerful as ours, men and women with bombs going off around them, shouldn't worry about whether this country will...
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our national security, not talking about a terrorist organization, not talking about wars in iraq and afghanistan, not talking about natural disasters, disease, epidemics, not famine. i'm talking about our national debt. our national debt is the threat. it is the great e threa greatesr national security. i'll tell you this isn't a problem for one party, the other party, it is a problem for all of us as americans. now, i'm not the only one that's saying it. actually, the chairman of the -- of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen, has said the most significant threat, the most significant threat to our nation's security is our debt. let me repeat, the most significant threat to our national security is the debt. you may notice, mr. president, that admiral mullen makes no mention at all of the debt ceiling. the presiding officer: would the senator from wyoming cease for a minute. could we have order, please. mr. barrasso: thank you, mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from wyoming may continue. mr. barrasso: thank you, mr. president. mr. president, as i was saying, you will n
our national security, not talking about a terrorist organization, not talking about wars in iraq and afghanistan, not talking about natural disasters, disease, epidemics, not famine. i'm talking about our national debt. our national debt is the threat. it is the great e threa greatesr national security. i'll tell you this isn't a problem for one party, the other party, it is a problem for all of us as americans. now, i'm not the only one that's saying it. actually, the chairman of the -- of...
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been wanting to take a trip to the middle east, or i know you've been wanting to be on the missions to afghanistan, and that would turn a corner. >> or something with a base in their district. that does not work with this tea party caucus. that according to jeff blake, republican, was saying last night. that is refreshing in a lot of regards. this is the reform that a lot of people want. but the question is, has it gone too far. does it go beyond the limits of what is reasonable and what is gettable. and are they going to, you know, give up the goods trying to get the perfect here because they do have the offer of cuts, the trillion -- up to a trillion dollars in the boehner bill and more that they gave up in the earlier compromise that was rejected last week. and, you know, they could have gotten up to $4 trillion. now it will be a lot less. they could get $4 trillion just by giving up the bush tax cuts. there are a lot of options here, but they're not willing to concede -- that group is not willing to concede any kind of revenue changes and that has been one of the sticking points. the other sti
been wanting to take a trip to the middle east, or i know you've been wanting to be on the missions to afghanistan, and that would turn a corner. >> or something with a base in their district. that does not work with this tea party caucus. that according to jeff blake, republican, was saying last night. that is refreshing in a lot of regards. this is the reform that a lot of people want. but the question is, has it gone too far. does it go beyond the limits of what is reasonable and what...
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barbara, a very dramatic development today in afghanistan. mullen goes there and troops start asking him, troops who are risking their lives fighting for the united states in afghanistan, will they be paid next week? >> these are young troops, wolf, in combat. you and i have covered the pentagon for a long time. they are on the front lines. the chairman of the joint chiefs spend the day in afghanistan. he wants to talk about the war. the troops have a different idea in mind. they want to know will they get paid and will their families be taken care of. this is just the beginning because now with all the talk in washington about money, money, money, the pentagon itself is right in the cross hairs. the pentagon spend nearly $700 billion a year on wars, fighter jets, bombings and bullets. rich target to cut spending to reduce the deficit. president obama's incoming top military advisor is playing ball to an extent. >> if we don't show we recognize that the nation has a significant economic problem and then do our part whatever that part may be t
barbara, a very dramatic development today in afghanistan. mullen goes there and troops start asking him, troops who are risking their lives fighting for the united states in afghanistan, will they be paid next week? >> these are young troops, wolf, in combat. you and i have covered the pentagon for a long time. they are on the front lines. the chairman of the joint chiefs spend the day in afghanistan. he wants to talk about the war. the troops have a different idea in mind. they want to...
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roles and families and men and women, but what i have found is that it can be the poorest villagers in afghanistan or somebody in europe there realizes that the facts show you that this leads to better economic development. it leads to more income for a family. and that starts to drive a whole series of willingness to engage women more effectively. we're looking at issues of everything from the effect on world schooling -- girl schooling, the infant mortality issues, maternal health issues, a critical aspect for women in developing countries of opportunity. some of the topics that we talk about property ownership, ability to borrow, and so it varies by country and experience. but as we do more research, we learn things about, for example, the benefits of working for -- through women head of households. that data is now quite extraordinary and compelling from a variety of sources, and this is driven by some of the cash transfer programs in latin america, you put the money through the women head of households, and the use of money for children in the family and for community is many multiples of the
roles and families and men and women, but what i have found is that it can be the poorest villagers in afghanistan or somebody in europe there realizes that the facts show you that this leads to better economic development. it leads to more income for a family. and that starts to drive a whole series of willingness to engage women more effectively. we're looking at issues of everything from the effect on world schooling -- girl schooling, the infant mortality issues, maternal health issues, a...
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some from save negotiation afghanistan and iraq. the republican doesn't trust the math and a committee that would have to be formed for additional deficit reduction steps. that is where we stand. the house republicans have their plan, the democrats do have theirs? can they work out a compromise by monday night, august 2nd, at midnight. the government would have less money coming in than it needs to pay out in bills. eric ericson, as a conservative, what is the line? do you want any deal? don't go to the point where we might have a default? or is it a balanced budget amendment, size of the spending cuts? what is the red line for conservatives in a compromise negotiation, what should it be? >> you know, i tend to agree with jeff lake, send s.j. 10, the balanced budget amendment, send it out to the states and democrats can have what they want if they send it out to the states. i hear a lot of conservatives saying that. and a real desperation among conservatives, they can fight and win that at the states and democrats are scared to do i
some from save negotiation afghanistan and iraq. the republican doesn't trust the math and a committee that would have to be formed for additional deficit reduction steps. that is where we stand. the house republicans have their plan, the democrats do have theirs? can they work out a compromise by monday night, august 2nd, at midnight. the government would have less money coming in than it needs to pay out in bills. eric ericson, as a conservative, what is the line? do you want any deal? don't...
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. >> -- ask about military strategy or how a troop drawdown in afghanistan would affect them. no. they ask whether they would pay for republicans to force the united states government to stop paying its bills. a region that has been rocked by violence and plagued by suicide bombers this month and wondered how they would take care of their families if the checks stopped coming next month. let me read a little bit of that that came out yesterday. "half a world away from the capitol, capitol hill deadlock, the debt crisis weighs heavily on troops in afghanistan. and the top question on their minds saturday, even as bombings rocked the city around them, was one a top united states military officer couldn't answer -- will we get paid?" admiral mullen went on to say, "i don't know the answer to that question. but either way, those soldiers, all of you must continue to work every day." this is really unacceptable. a country as rich and powerful as ours, men and women with bombs going off arnold them, shouldn't wonder if this country would leave them high and dry. this afternoon i've aske
. >> -- ask about military strategy or how a troop drawdown in afghanistan would affect them. no. they ask whether they would pay for republicans to force the united states government to stop paying its bills. a region that has been rocked by violence and plagued by suicide bombers this month and wondered how they would take care of their families if the checks stopped coming next month. let me read a little bit of that that came out yesterday. "half a world away from the capitol,...
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over the entire decade the cost of the afghanistan and iraq war about is about $1.3 trillion. and that is a lot of money.rs again that's over ten years over a decade. this year alone the deficit is expected to be 1400,000,000000 this -- 1.4 trillion. be the deficits this year will be the larger than the cost of iraq and afghanistan over ten years. so the driving force behind the deficit isn't above war in iraq and afghanistan.y it represents only 1% of the the total outlays over the last ten ye years.to thetal total amount of money spent the president -- president obama office took office is $8.5 trillion. three by the end of his first three years in office we will have t added 5 trillion to our gross federal debt. that is a stunning number.bushad bush had a widely criticized and in many ways brightly criticized for hundred 50 billion-dollar deficit. since president obama$4illion has beena has b in office it's been 1.2, 1.3its -- i looks like this year it will be $1.5 trillion. each year more than double that amount. we are borrowing to class at half of what we're spending we'
over the entire decade the cost of the afghanistan and iraq war about is about $1.3 trillion. and that is a lot of money.rs again that's over ten years over a decade. this year alone the deficit is expected to be 1400,000,000000 this -- 1.4 trillion. be the deficits this year will be the larger than the cost of iraq and afghanistan over ten years. so the driving force behind the deficit isn't above war in iraq and afghanistan.y it represents only 1% of the the total outlays over the last ten ye...
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i spent some time in afghanistan. i am hopeful that either one of you will test us here at not acknowledge that bribes have been an essential part of us doing business in afghanistan, regardless of what we are doing. what can you tell the committee about bribes in the bribes that have been paid at various places and levels, whether it is under the aegis of security or other services that are needed by local folks that are used to getting their piece of the pie? >> i can tell you, we do not have any part of that whatsoever. we have a very strict company policy against bribes, and we'd just do not participate in that. on several locations, it costs us delays. we have had to suffer because we did not agree to play that game. but we really do not. >> mr. walker? >> we have seen no evidence of our security personnel providing bribes. the casualties that we're taking would indicate that that is not something that we sponsor or that our security provides. >> i assume as the security costs went way up, the casualties went dow
i spent some time in afghanistan. i am hopeful that either one of you will test us here at not acknowledge that bribes have been an essential part of us doing business in afghanistan, regardless of what we are doing. what can you tell the committee about bribes in the bribes that have been paid at various places and levels, whether it is under the aegis of security or other services that are needed by local folks that are used to getting their piece of the pie? >> i can tell you, we do...
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soldier says he's not going to afghanistan. >> i don't want to deploy because i believe i can't both deploy and be a muslim. >> no, police say he'd rather kill americans here at home. a twisted home grown terror plot revealed. >> meanwhile, it's back to the drawing board! again. john boehner's debt deal vote called off last night. is there anything the speaker can do with democrat insisting they'll kill it as soon as it arrives in the senate no matter what. >> he ran eight miles a
soldier says he's not going to afghanistan. >> i don't want to deploy because i believe i can't both deploy and be a muslim. >> no, police say he'd rather kill americans here at home. a twisted home grown terror plot revealed. >> meanwhile, it's back to the drawing board! again. john boehner's debt deal vote called off last night. is there anything the speaker can do with democrat insisting they'll kill it as soon as it arrives in the senate no matter what. >> he ran...
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troops in afghanistan have a question for the nation's top military man. will they get paid? his answer, coming up on msnbc saturday. [ barks ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ whistles ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ ting! ] [ male announcer ] travelers can help you protect the things you care about and save money with multi-policy discounts. are you getting the coverage you need and the discounts you deserve? for an agent or quote, call 800-my-coverage or visit travelers.com. dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic center recommends the custom-fit orthotic that's best for your tired feet. foot-care scientists are behind it. you'll get all-day relief. for your tired achy feet. for locations, see drscholls.com. thank you... ♪ going to the bank without going to the bank... that's a step forward. with chase quickdeposit on your smartphone, you just snap a picture, hit send and done. chase quickdeposit. take a step forward and chase what matters. ♪ we just keep on keepin' on ♪ ♪ keep on >>> well kol back to msnbc saturday. we have new word from president obama this morning on the debt crisis
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afghanistan. at the same time, the d.c. deval qaeda and terrorist groups affiliated also require pakistan to be able to defeat them at home. but that is not easy. it's not easy simply because it has been said by many american officials osama bin laden was founded pakistan there's no evidence anybody in the pakistani government had anything to do with the presence there but obviously he had an impact and here's my answer to that. 180 million people in pakistan most of them overwhelmingly muslim. a lot of them shared views and ideologies and belief systems that make them sympathetic to radical groups and that is the effort of trying to change the discourse of pakistan, changing the environment, the economy, it's been important and that cannot be done, you can't lead the $2 billion changeover but the slide and make them stop thinking that the restoration is the best course of muslims in the world to become so with that kind of -- those kind of numbers, it is if 1% of the population is sympathetic to
afghanistan. at the same time, the d.c. deval qaeda and terrorist groups affiliated also require pakistan to be able to defeat them at home. but that is not easy. it's not easy simply because it has been said by many american officials osama bin laden was founded pakistan there's no evidence anybody in the pakistani government had anything to do with the presence there but obviously he had an impact and here's my answer to that. 180 million people in pakistan most of them overwhelmingly muslim....
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, this is his 15th trip to afghanistan. and probably one of the last ones. i'm pretty sure this is one of the last questions that he expected, but apparently it was the biggest question that he received among the sailors, the soldiers, the airmen and the marines. he was quite honest with them when he said he didn't know what this meant for their paycheck. these are men and women in afghanistan, here months at a time, sometimes years at a time away from their families, expecting a paycheck, expecting a paycheck for fighting for their country. on top of worrying about ieds and rpgs, now they have to worry about whether they will be paid and their families will be provided for. >> since we're talking about this and luke was talking about what's happening on the hill, are there a lot of questions coming from those serving in the military, contractors that are in afghanistan, war theaters abroad, what have you heard in terms of what's happening here in washington? >> reporter: what most americans here that aren't in the armed fo
, this is his 15th trip to afghanistan. and probably one of the last ones. i'm pretty sure this is one of the last questions that he expected, but apparently it was the biggest question that he received among the sailors, the soldiers, the airmen and the marines. he was quite honest with them when he said he didn't know what this meant for their paycheck. these are men and women in afghanistan, here months at a time, sometimes years at a time away from their families, expecting a paycheck,...
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for one thing, we don't know what the future obstacles in afghanistan and iraq are. and we've got to rely -- retain a certain level of stability on the ground in afghanistan, and i have met with afghan leaders and women just in the last couple of weeks, and they also agree that, if america leaves precipitously, without knowing what the stability on the ground is -- and we certainly haven't certain stability lately with the assassinations of mayors and leaders, including the half-brother of the leader of afghanistan -- that's not stability; it doesn't say that they are ready yet. so having $1 trillion of cuts could undermine our national security. we don't know that we can count on that. i hope we can. i hope we can leave with the right circumstances on the ground, but that is the only criteria that we should use and not cutting a budget that we know is a promise and not a commitment that we are assured that we can keep. most disturbing of all in the reid plan, the only possible justification for a $2.4 trillion increase in borrowing authority is to avoid doing this a
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forces afghanistan. the president expressed his full confidence in general allen as he begins this important assignment and that he said he looks forward to working closely with him. and with that i will take your questions. >> i want to follow-up on something the president said. he claimed to call speaker boehner and the other leaders after the house vote to resume meetings here, is that right? should we respect resumption a daily meeting? >> no, i think the president will call speaker boehner, based on what he said. he will call the leaders and arrange for a time for a meeting to happen here at the white house. is not a series of meetings budget sometime in the next few days. >> he also made note at the end there that is in progress or agreement with the concept of six or seven senators, how is the white house expects what this again is think to have an impact on the house republican? >> the news from the gang of six/seven italy a significant because it dramatized and reinforces the fact that the only
forces afghanistan. the president expressed his full confidence in general allen as he begins this important assignment and that he said he looks forward to working closely with him. and with that i will take your questions. >> i want to follow-up on something the president said. he claimed to call speaker boehner and the other leaders after the house vote to resume meetings here, is that right? should we respect resumption a daily meeting? >> no, i think the president will call...
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the controversy over the $1 trillion they say are in savings from pulling back from surge levels in afghanistan and iraq. a lot of concerns about the reid bill that they could never get 60 votes. what really will happen is a negotiation, a compromise that we will likely see tomorrow and it will be put on the shell of the boehner bill that still is a lie that -- that is tabled but still there and then somehow manage to get 60 votes on that one would think and send it back to the house in that form. >> sean: what is interesting about that when they send it back to the house i would assume because it was so difficult to get the republicans onboard the boehner bill, took the extra day, creating more savings and then, of course, adding the balanced budget provision late yesterday so the vote could take place today, i would assume that the speaker would lose a lot of votes and would be then on democrats to pass what would be the reid mcconnell bill. >> bret: and probably some more boehner factors in there. try to merge one would think the reid, mcconnell and boehner bills. there will not be the balan
the controversy over the $1 trillion they say are in savings from pulling back from surge levels in afghanistan and iraq. a lot of concerns about the reid bill that they could never get 60 votes. what really will happen is a negotiation, a compromise that we will likely see tomorrow and it will be put on the shell of the boehner bill that still is a lie that -- that is tabled but still there and then somehow manage to get 60 votes on that one would think and send it back to the house in that...
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the controversy over the $1 trillion they say are in savings from pulling back from surge levels in afghanistan and iraq. a lot of concerns about the reid bill that they could never get 60 votes. what really will happen is a negotiation, a compromise that we will likely see tomorrow and it will be put on the shell of the boehner bill that still is a lie that -- that is tabled but still there and then somehow manage to get 60 votes on that one would think and send it back to the house in that form. >> sean: what is interesting about that when they send it back to the house i would assume because it was so difficult to get the republicans onboard the boehner bill, took the extra day, creating more savings and then, of course, adding the balanced budget provision late yesterday so the vote could take place today, i would assume that the speaker would lose a lot of votes and would be then on democrats to pass what would be the reid mcconnell bill. >> bret: and probably some more boehner factors in there. try to merge one would think the reid, mcconnell and boehner bills. there will not be the balan
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the controversy over the $1 trillion they say are in savings from pulling back from surge levels in afghanistan and iraq. a lot of concerns about the reid bill that they could never get 60 votes. what really will happen is a negotiation, a compromise that we will likely see tomorrow and it will be put on the shell of the boehner bill that still is a lie that -- that is tabled but still there and then somehow manage to get 60 votes on that one would think and send it back to the house in that form. >> sean: what is interesting about that when they send it back to the house i would assume because it was so difficult to get the republicans onboard the boehner bill, took the extra day, creating more savings and then, of course, adding the balanced budget provision late yesterday so the vote could take place today, i would assume that the speaker would lose a lot of votes and would be then on democrats to pass what would be the reid mcconnell bill. >> bret: and probably some more boehner factors in there. try to merge one would think the reid, mcconnell and boehner bills. there will not be the balan
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includes cuts but nothing to entitlements, and savings in part from ending the wars eventually in iraq and afghanistan, about a trillion there. highly questionable. speaker boehner's plan has two steps in it. totals $1.2 trillion in cuts. has a six to nine month debt ceiling and cuts and another debt ceiling mechanism next year sometime.ç david, seems like the president is basically saying all i want, get this out of the way before the incomes election. in that interest i'll give you what you want, basically? >> the democrats, without, and republican. s have drawn a line in the sand. problem is, it's inside it's republican tent. it's basically up to the bedroom. saying, we'll given you cuts, and part of reid's plan is $1.2 trillion in defense and non-defense discretionary cuts. we don't know what the cuts will be. may be real cuts in real problems, that the president and other democrats care a lot about. they have basically yielded to republicans on a big conceptual point. linking, lifting the debt ceiling to spending cuts and -- >> two things republicans still want. a dollar for dollar cut in spend
includes cuts but nothing to entitlements, and savings in part from ending the wars eventually in iraq and afghanistan, about a trillion there. highly questionable. speaker boehner's plan has two steps in it. totals $1.2 trillion in cuts. has a six to nine month debt ceiling and cuts and another debt ceiling mechanism next year sometime.ç david, seems like the president is basically saying all i want, get this out of the way before the incomes election. in that interest i'll give you what you...
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there are 145,000 troops deployed in iraq and afghanistan who are working long hours every day in the desert heat to protect our freedom. to make sure that we are doing everything we can to root out the terrorists that have attacked america. these men and women all raise their right hand and volunteered to go to defend this nation. the very least that we can do while we are in this kind of budget negotiation, which is making a lot of people nervous -- i have faith that we're going to do the right thing in the end, but it's not clear yet. we're pea a week away. -- we're a week away. so i don't think we should make these people think about whether it's going to happen and if there's going to be delay in a paycheck. so i hope that we'll be automobile to bring this bill up. i can guarantee, if the majority leader will bring up my bill, it will pass. it has 80 cosponsors. the new bill is the same thing except that it just makes the debt payment the priority, which you would hope would not have to be done, but, nevertheless, let's assure that our debtors know that we're going to pay the int
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today harry reid counting savings in his plan from our drawdown in iraq and afghanistan. that sounds good. banking and expected trillion dollars that won't be spent when we withdraw from iraq and afghanistan. the only number crunchers say think can get that is with withdrawals. the plan is raising broader questions about our role in the middle east. the future in the region, and every president's propensity to proclaim their desire to get us out of the middle east while escalating and investing war in oil-richç monarchies that we depend on or energy resources. our specialist today, an award-winning journalist who spent four decades coving terrorism, turmoil and most recently the drive for democracy in the islamic world. her new book "rock the casbah" documenting you new counterjihad. we welcome you to the conversation. tell wlaus a countergee shaud? >> the most important wave of empowerment in the early 21st century. we soo it play out in the uprising across the arab world but also happen kind of culture change, ridiculing extremists. plays out among playwrighting and p
today harry reid counting savings in his plan from our drawdown in iraq and afghanistan. that sounds good. banking and expected trillion dollars that won't be spent when we withdraw from iraq and afghanistan. the only number crunchers say think can get that is with withdrawals. the plan is raising broader questions about our role in the middle east. the future in the region, and every president's propensity to proclaim their desire to get us out of the middle east while escalating and investing...
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in the stand that admiral mullen is in afghanistan, visiting the troops. the question they are asking, will they be paid if this default happens? let me put this plainly. if senator reid's plan passes as they pay down their domestic spending spree with the blood and sweat of our troops, the military will break. we have allowed ourselves to be distracted from the massive entitlement programs that are actually bankrupting the country. that stops here. the budget passed last night shrinks the government and, most importantly, holt's three years of neglect to our armed forces. thank you. now i would like to ask the gentleman from arizona -- i mean virginia, i do not know how that happened, the chairman of our readiness subcommittee. >> i think that this is an important issue. over the last several weeks we have heard a lot about the word compromise. i think that the american people realize that overlaid on that are two other words. we need to make sure that we are having common sense on whatever compromise that we have. we do not understand why it is the democ
in the stand that admiral mullen is in afghanistan, visiting the troops. the question they are asking, will they be paid if this default happens? let me put this plainly. if senator reid's plan passes as they pay down their domestic spending spree with the blood and sweat of our troops, the military will break. we have allowed ourselves to be distracted from the massive entitlement programs that are actually bankrupting the country. that stops here. the budget passed last night shrinks the...
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muslim plotted the attack saying he wanted to "get even with the military for fighting in iraq and afghanistan." >>> new jersey governor chris christie left the hospital last night after being treated briefly for asthma. the governor says he experienced shortness of breath and lied headedness. it didn't take long for the question of a president's run to come up, of course. let's listen. >> if i decided i want to run for president, i think you know me, charlie, i'd do it, and if there were people who don't think i'm up to it, they ought not vote for me, but we're not at that stage at the moment, so i don't have to worry about it. >> every time i hear him talk about this campaign i swear it sounds like he's looking for a way to run. not a way to not run. hamlet, move over. >>> in a prime example of art imitating life, a spy novelist. major shifts in his story. the product, a riveting and very relevant new book called portrait of a spy. the author, here again. daniel silva. first of all, congratulations. "wall street journal" best-seller. number one. >> number one. >> it will catch up. >> they do
muslim plotted the attack saying he wanted to "get even with the military for fighting in iraq and afghanistan." >>> new jersey governor chris christie left the hospital last night after being treated briefly for asthma. the governor says he experienced shortness of breath and lied headedness. it didn't take long for the question of a president's run to come up, of course. let's listen. >> if i decided i want to run for president, i think you know me, charlie, i'd do...
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$2.2 trillion in spending over the next decade including savings account for scaling back the wars in afghanistan and iraq. let's talk now to a new member of the senate who opposes both of these plans. he says they don't do enough to bring fiscal sanity to washington, senator rand paul, republican of kentucky, is with us this evening. senator paul, the conservatives in the house can't round up the votes to pass their plan. speaker reid probably has 52 or 53 for his, but he doesn't have the 60 votes he would need to get it through the senate. we're days away from a potential default. would you prefer default to either of these two plans. >> no. but the interesting thing is the conservatives did round up the votes. the conservatives in the senate and the house. we got 234 votes in the house last week for cut, cap and balance to balance the budget and to raise the debt ceiling the full $2 trillion, exactly what the president wants. it's interesting the dynamic here because some are saying we're unwilling to compromise. we already offered the president $2 trillion increase in the debt ceiling. all we
$2.2 trillion in spending over the next decade including savings account for scaling back the wars in afghanistan and iraq. let's talk now to a new member of the senate who opposes both of these plans. he says they don't do enough to bring fiscal sanity to washington, senator rand paul, republican of kentucky, is with us this evening. senator paul, the conservatives in the house can't round up the votes to pass their plan. speaker reid probably has 52 or 53 for his, but he doesn't have the 60...
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the money and weapons were meant to go to taliban militants in afghanistan. one indictment describes a heroin deal that have grew into a $9.5 million arm sell. an ooatheist group is suing to block the display of the world trade center cross. they say the cross display is, quote, an inpermissible mingling of church and state. it consists of two steel beams. it was found in the wreckage and moved to the memorial on saturday. and one year after the worst oil spill in u.s. history, bp's bottom line is pretty good. the company announced $5.3 billion in second quarter profits. that's a $22 million turnaround from the same period last year. $22 million swing the other way. and now they're posting $5 billion profit. >> a lot of people are going to be looking at the second quarter profits. >>> player or spectator? the president's changing role in the debt talks and whether he can really be sidelined plus, fast and furious. why a controversial gun program is sparking new outrage today in congress. you see, airline cres promise flights for 25,000 miles, but... [ man ] t
the money and weapons were meant to go to taliban militants in afghanistan. one indictment describes a heroin deal that have grew into a $9.5 million arm sell. an ooatheist group is suing to block the display of the world trade center cross. they say the cross display is, quote, an inpermissible mingling of church and state. it consists of two steel beams. it was found in the wreckage and moved to the memorial on saturday. and one year after the worst oil spill in u.s. history, bp's bottom line...
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it says that, imagine that we're at war for 10 years, in afghanistan and iraq at surge levels. we assume we're going to be fighting this war for 10 more years, with over 100,000 troops in afghanistan and oh, gosh, wait, we're going to withdraw our troops in 2014. $1 trillion in savings. i've got a better idea. let's pass a bill to cover the moon with yogurt that will cost $5 trillion today. and then let's pass a bill the next day to cancel that bill. we could save $5 trillion. wait, i've got a better idea. our debt is $14 trillion. let's come up with a new plan to spend $14 trillion, then rescind it the next day and let's save $14 trillion. this stuff is fiscal fantasy. you can't make this stuff up, mr. speaker. suggesting that we're going to be in a war at these levels for 10 more years when everybody knows we've already decided not to do that, that does not get us $1.3 trillion in spending cuts. only in washington can you add up math like that. we need real spending cuts. i yield myself an additional minute to say, this is getting serious,r. speaker. very serious. we can't ke
it says that, imagine that we're at war for 10 years, in afghanistan and iraq at surge levels. we assume we're going to be fighting this war for 10 more years, with over 100,000 troops in afghanistan and oh, gosh, wait, we're going to withdraw our troops in 2014. $1 trillion in savings. i've got a better idea. let's pass a bill to cover the moon with yogurt that will cost $5 trillion today. and then let's pass a bill the next day to cancel that bill. we could save $5 trillion. wait, i've got a...
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everybody knows that we are winding down the war in afghanistan and iraq. so, here we are six days away, six days waerbgs and we -- six days away, and we still have members of congress saying we have to pass a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. we have members on the other side who are saying that we have to raise taxes. we have a president of the united states who so far has refused to come forward with a detailed plan of his own. that's called leading from behind. it's time, it's time we listened to the markets. it's time we listened to our constituents. but most of all, it's time we listened to the american people and sit down and seriously negotiate something before we face a situation where we are depriving the american people of the fundamental right of having a government that doesn't deprive them the essential services, goods and entitlements which they have earned. madam president, i yield the floor. i suggest the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: mr. corker: i'd ask unanimous consent
everybody knows that we are winding down the war in afghanistan and iraq. so, here we are six days away, six days waerbgs and we -- six days away, and we still have members of congress saying we have to pass a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. we have members on the other side who are saying that we have to raise taxes. we have a president of the united states who so far has refused to come forward with a detailed plan of his own. that's called leading from behind. it's time, it's...
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plus, what this crisis means for funding troops in afghanistan. this morning many soldiers are asking, will we get paid? >>> good morning, everyone, i'm alex witt. welcome to msnbc saturday. we're approaching 10:00 a.m. on the east coast, 7:00 a.m. out west. congress has set itself up for a day of infighting today as the debt deadline draws dangerously close. the senate will start its session at 1:00 p.m. eastern and it's planning to debate a debt bill for at least 12 hours before holding a t
plus, what this crisis means for funding troops in afghanistan. this morning many soldiers are asking, will we get paid? >>> good morning, everyone, i'm alex witt. welcome to msnbc saturday. we're approaching 10:00 a.m. on the east coast, 7:00 a.m. out west. congress has set itself up for a day of infighting today as the debt deadline draws dangerously close. the senate will start its session at 1:00 p.m. eastern and it's planning to debate a debt bill for at least 12 hours before...
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paychecks for soldiers, in afghanistan and iraq and at bases around the world conceivably wouldn't go out. f.a.a. towers could shut down. border crossings could close. operations at the f.b.i. and the c.i.a. would be put at risk. safety inspections of the food that we eat and the cargo that enters our ports could halt. and the resulting spike in interest rates would ironically make our debt even harder to tackle because each 1% rise in interest rates alone would result in $130 billion in increased interest payments on our national debt each year. perhaps, most importantly, hard-working american families would also feel the crunch. a spike in interest rates would effectively force a tax on all americans and american businesses due to increased consumer costs. just as important, failure to raise the debt limit would lock up credit markets because the u.s. would no longer be seen as a reliable credit risk. coincidentally, mr. president, yesterday an important consumer protection law which senator lugar and i introduced and passed and you helped us with on the floor here last year went in
paychecks for soldiers, in afghanistan and iraq and at bases around the world conceivably wouldn't go out. f.a.a. towers could shut down. border crossings could close. operations at the f.b.i. and the c.i.a. would be put at risk. safety inspections of the food that we eat and the cargo that enters our ports could halt. and the resulting spike in interest rates would ironically make our debt even harder to tackle because each 1% rise in interest rates alone would result in $130 billion in...
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. >> sreenivasan: the mayor of kandahar was assassinated in southern afghanistan today. a suicide bomber hid explosives in his turban, before blowing himself up inside a heavily-fortified government compound. it's the third taliban attack on an afghan powerbroker in the south in more than two weeks. the new u.s. ambassador to afghanistan ryan crocker said it's proof the taliban is so damaged, it can't carry out large-scale operations. he spoke today in kabul. >> they've had to kind of regroup and figure out what they can do and, in some cases, that has been assassination. we saw a very similar pattern in iraq. clearly, these are horrific attacks but they can also be interpreted as a sign of significant organizational weakness. >> sreenivasan: a taliban spokesman told the associated press the kandahar mayor was targeted for ordering the destruction of homes city officials claimed were illegally constructed. two children were killed during that demolition. the prime minister of norway today announced an independent commission will review how last week's twin attacks were a
. >> sreenivasan: the mayor of kandahar was assassinated in southern afghanistan today. a suicide bomber hid explosives in his turban, before blowing himself up inside a heavily-fortified government compound. it's the third taliban attack on an afghan powerbroker in the south in more than two weeks. the new u.s. ambassador to afghanistan ryan crocker said it's proof the taliban is so damaged, it can't carry out large-scale operations. he spoke today in kabul. >> they've had to kind...
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a soldier's death in afghanistan is shrouded in mystery. few details are known, except he was part of the army's secret force. cnn's pentagon correspondent, barbara starr, though with the details. >> reporter: it was here in the mountains of eastern afghanistan that army master sergeant benjamin stevenson was killed on his tenth combat tour of duty. this is the only photo the army will release of the soldier from ft. bragg's army special operations command. the military will say little about his extraordinary record. but cnn has been told by military sources stevenson was a veteran of the army's deeply classified world of special operations forces, highly trained in counterterrorist assault missions, the army equivalent of the navy s.e.a.l.s who killed osama bin laden. on july 21st, stevenson and others helicoptered at night into the mountains. the target, a camp of foreign fighters. the americans quickly came under fire and returned fire, killing nearly 50 insurgents. but at dawn, two more waves of insurgent s attacked. the u.s. repeatedly
a soldier's death in afghanistan is shrouded in mystery. few details are known, except he was part of the army's secret force. cnn's pentagon correspondent, barbara starr, though with the details. >> reporter: it was here in the mountains of eastern afghanistan that army master sergeant benjamin stevenson was killed on his tenth combat tour of duty. this is the only photo the army will release of the soldier from ft. bragg's army special operations command. the military will say little...
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the ryan budget contained a $1 trillion in savings winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. majority leader kantor acknowledged the ryan budget counted toward deficit reduction. drawing down the troops would save more than $1 trillion over 10 years. we have given them everything they asked for. $2.70 trillion, dollar for dollar, there is no revenue. [unintelligible] in my caucus, somebody had an ipad and they read it today. the rating agencies are very nervous. there was a congressional hearing today. i do not have that, but the person testifying today said the one thing the markets demand is starting tond debate this thing again in a few weeks is not a certainty. [unintelligible] excellent question. we tried our best to have a trigger with some of the stuff that president obama worked on with republicans. they worked on the trigger. they could never get there because it would be so unfair if the committee did not arrive at a positive conclusion that the trigger would be all costs. that is really unfair. we cannot get from here to there after having already put to put $7 tri
the ryan budget contained a $1 trillion in savings winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. majority leader kantor acknowledged the ryan budget counted toward deficit reduction. drawing down the troops would save more than $1 trillion over 10 years. we have given them everything they asked for. $2.70 trillion, dollar for dollar, there is no revenue. [unintelligible] in my caucus, somebody had an ipad and they read it today. the rating agencies are very nervous. there was a congressional...
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the cost of the war in iraq and afghanistan. it this far outpaces anything. just the war costs in the tax cuts alone, what day account for are the debt. the way you get out of this debt is to pile all of this burden on middle income families and senior citizens. they're the most vulnerable. it is just plain wrong. this is outrageous. ..will close with this bi the house of riverses appears to be here. president obama has put a lot on the table. he put some that makes me very uncomfortable. he has gone the extra mile by any objective analysis. we're close to this deadline. these are something that does not recommend a conference bridge a compromise. it was right off a cliff ticket we should not be doing this. we should be finding ways to come together. let's move on. i regret that we are here. we do not even know what the you're going to bring to the floor. i've never experienced a thing like this before. i regret that we are here. i thank you very much for being here. i wish your counterpart were here. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. how many hearings ha
the cost of the war in iraq and afghanistan. it this far outpaces anything. just the war costs in the tax cuts alone, what day account for are the debt. the way you get out of this debt is to pile all of this burden on middle income families and senior citizens. they're the most vulnerable. it is just plain wrong. this is outrageous. ..will close with this bi the house of riverses appears to be here. president obama has put a lot on the table. he put some that makes me very uncomfortable. he...
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reduce government spending at all levels, including the military, as we bring our troops home from afghanistan. and, yes, it needs to look at the money that we spend through our tax code -- and we've talked about this over and over again. we need to have a balanced approach, a credible approach to manage our debt. and that should be our first option. but under no circumstances should we allow america to default on its obligations, causing harm to every american family. i urge-colleagues to put the national -- i urge my colleagues to put the national interests first, to take off the table the default on our debt, take that off the table, let's put the national interest first, work together to bring about a credible plan to manage our national debt. and with that, mr. president, i would yield the floor and suggest the an -- before i do that, i would suggest the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call:
reduce government spending at all levels, including the military, as we bring our troops home from afghanistan. and, yes, it needs to look at the money that we spend through our tax code -- and we've talked about this over and over again. we need to have a balanced approach, a credible approach to manage our debt. and that should be our first option. but under no circumstances should we allow america to default on its obligations, causing harm to every american family. i urge-colleagues to put...
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now i understand admiral mullen is over in afghanistan, visiting with some of the troops. the question they are asking, will they be paid if the default happens? as senator read it's plan passes, if we stand idly by while this administration pays down its domestic spending spree with the blood and sweat of our troops, our military will break. by accepting three long years of defense cuts, we have allowed ourselves to be distracted by the massive entitlement programs that are bankrupting the up country. that stops here with this committee. the budget that we submitted last night cancels' president obama's credit card. it creates the conditions necessary for businesses to flourish. it shrinks our government, and most importantly, it stops three years of neglect to our armed forces. thank you. now i would like to ask the representative from virginia -- we were talking about how hot it was -- from virginia, the chairman of our readiness subcommittee. >> i want to first thank the chairman for holding this conference. i think this is an important issue. over the last several wee
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. >> all the people in iraq and afghanistan. that's not so much. $3 billion. people all around the world. what else? >> we have to take care of unemployment insurance. >> although people struggling out there. you know they must be taken care of. that's $13 billion. what else? too snigs. >> well, we have to pay veterans benefits. we have to take care of our veterans. >> we're taking care of our veterans. that's $3 billion more. you can't forget your federal salaries here. all the people who make the government run. are you going to throw those in? >> of course. >> we put those in. what else do you want to pay for here? >> you've got it. people who get irs refunds. what about those people? >> 77% of the country gets irs refunds. we have to take care of those people. you're almost there? what else do you want? >> tuition assistance. education. >> all those young people are going to need jobs. you're over here. and now, do you know what? i showed up at your door. i'm an advocate for the poor in this country. i'm telling you if you don't put in food and nutrition s
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new zealand is a country that is in enormous partnership with us at this time, assisting in afghanistan, engaged in transpacific trade deliberations with us, and in many, many other ways contributing to one of the strongest and best partnerships we have on a global basis. therefore, i would ask unanimous consent that the senate stand in recess subject to the call of the chair so that colleagues might welcome the prime minister to the floor of the united states senate. the presiding officer: is there objection? without objection, the senate stands in recess subject to t twitter.com c-span wj is how you can reach us. one of the headlines this morning. the deficit cutting plan too much too late. talks between various members. the government reporter can we first go on to the gang of 6 proposals? if from bloo bloomberg news. is that what they are thinking on capitol hill today? >> yes. the gang of six came out with their proposal. it's fairly sweeping. i think there's a sense more among -- there's a sense among some lawmakers that they are trying to sign on to this. there was a letter that
new zealand is a country that is in enormous partnership with us at this time, assisting in afghanistan, engaged in transpacific trade deliberations with us, and in many, many other ways contributing to one of the strongest and best partnerships we have on a global basis. therefore, i would ask unanimous consent that the senate stand in recess subject to the call of the chair so that colleagues might welcome the prime minister to the floor of the united states senate. the presiding officer: is...
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>> yeah from this standpoint, safelying we projected we would in the iraq and afghanistan war when we know we are going to be out of there. it is dishonest to say you are going to have savings from something that isn't spent any way. >> greta: what would he said? >> he would probably say the republicans -- the budget never becomes law. if reid's bill would pass it would become law. a budget is nothing than an outline. >> greta: you are saying you did it so we do it? >> probably his argument. >> greta: what do you think the american people would think of that? >> american people are fed up with the partisanship in washington. they want us to reach an agreement. a large share of the calls we've gotten since the president's speech monday night is, just get it done. >> greta: there are a couple of factions. within the republican party in the house, you have the tea party people who say there must be a balanced budget amendment in this bill or we are voting no. that's divided. over here the senate says if the boehner bill comes here it is not likely to pass if it does the president says he
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well, they say that the savings from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan don't count. specifically, they say that these savings are -- quote -- "a widely ridiculed accounting gimmick that breeds cynicism." unquote. yet all but three of the 43 senators who signed this letter voted for the ryan budget on may 25 this year. that budget counted the same drawdowns as almost identical in savings. so those savings were legitimate enough to secure their support for the ryan budget but not legitimate enough to secure their support for leader reid's debt ceiling compromise. and here we are on the precipice, and suddenly they've done a 180-degree turn. either these savings count or they don't. you can't have it both ways. so we are proposing exactly what republicans have been saying that they want. yet instead of accepting this deal, they're using what precious time we have left to push forward with their agenda, and it's not even their agenda. it's the tea party agenda. their radical agenda is a wolf in sheep's clothing. last night we voted down speaker boehner's plan which requi
well, they say that the savings from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan don't count. specifically, they say that these savings are -- quote -- "a widely ridiculed accounting gimmick that breeds cynicism." unquote. yet all but three of the 43 senators who signed this letter voted for the ryan budget on may 25 this year. that budget counted the same drawdowns as almost identical in savings. so those savings were legitimate enough to secure their support for the ryan budget...
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in afghanistan. i was only help -- hopeful to lead a small sample of those downrange, to look them in the eye and let them know how much i appreciate what they and their families do for our country. looking forward i knew that it would be very difficult for me to express my feelings for these young men and women, in a way that would allow me to get through this speech. a personal message from me to all of the servicemen and women across the world was published and distributed in the military channel. i will just say that here -- i will think of these young warriors, the ones who fought and keep on fighting, and those who never made it back until the end of my days. and as i was contemplating this moment i thought about something becky told me in january 2005 when i was as to the first director of national intelligence. i was wrestling with this decision and i told her she could make it easier if she said she did not want to go back to washington. she said, you have to do what you have to do. this is
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president to sustain our military force io afghanistan. that is literally what we'ren do taught about here in this debate. the american people are turning to come to understand it because when you first ask a person, tht obvious answer is no, are you crazy, senator? by what i want one of them in this country? we need more less stack, notts e more. when you go to the point ofjusto explaining that this is to pay d for things we authority -- that's the authority incurred, it isn't just a wage of war. 65a it is a debt incurred to pay fot medicare. we staaidl a to 65-year-olds acr america, you get medicare that will be there when you need pay. when you go to the hospital and turn your bills, will pay thejor hospital and we borrow money to do it. yield? >> thank you. i just walked in i appreciate w your comments about where weereh had h were. of 10 years ago we had a budget surplus in this country as you , recall. we had a number quarter after quarter of economic growth than we know the coming outcome when you have economic growth obviously the
president to sustain our military force io afghanistan. that is literally what we'ren do taught about here in this debate. the american people are turning to come to understand it because when you first ask a person, tht obvious answer is no, are you crazy, senator? by what i want one of them in this country? we need more less stack, notts e more. when you go to the point ofjusto explaining that this is to pay d for things we authority -- that's the authority incurred, it isn't just a wage of...
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senate say to the president of the united states, as an example, we want you to continue to wage war in afghanistan at the cost of $10 billion a month, this president knows that he will have to borrow about $4 billion a month to meet that congressional appropriation. you see, we borrow about 40 cents for every dollar we spend. similarly, when it comes to the payments that we make to our veterans, who are disabled, we have promised them we will pay you, because you served our country and you lost a limb or you were injured and we will compensate you for that loss for the rest of your life. we need in making that commitment that we're also making a commitment to borrow the money necessary to do it. so periodically a president will come to congress and say, i understand our obligations which you have sent to me and i have approved, and now i ask you to extend my authority to borrow the money to meet those obligations. that has happened 89 times since 1939. since we passed this law, presidents of both parties have come to congress and asked for that authority. and aceman as i mentioned, not d congress
senate say to the president of the united states, as an example, we want you to continue to wage war in afghanistan at the cost of $10 billion a month, this president knows that he will have to borrow about $4 billion a month to meet that congressional appropriation. you see, we borrow about 40 cents for every dollar we spend. similarly, when it comes to the payments that we make to our veterans, who are disabled, we have promised them we will pay you, because you served our country and you...
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the current inventory is getting old and worn down from iraq and afghanistan. some equipment can be refurbished with life extension programs, but there is no getting around the fact that others must be replaced. when it comes to our military modernization accounts, he said the proverbial low-lying or low-hanging fruit, those weapons and other programs considered most questionable have not only been plucked, they have been stomped on and crushed. what remains are much-needed capabilities relating to our air superiority, our mobility, long-range strike, nuclear deterrents, maritime access, space and cyberwarfare, ground forces, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance that our nation's civilian and military leadership deemed absolutely critical. and he gave examples of a new tanker. he noted the ones we have are twice as old as many of the pilots who are flying them. a new generation strike fighter, the f-35. he said we have got to build more ships. the size of the navy has sunk to the lowest number since prior to world war ii. the army and marines, doing th
the current inventory is getting old and worn down from iraq and afghanistan. some equipment can be refurbished with life extension programs, but there is no getting around the fact that others must be replaced. when it comes to our military modernization accounts, he said the proverbial low-lying or low-hanging fruit, those weapons and other programs considered most questionable have not only been plucked, they have been stomped on and crushed. what remains are much-needed capabilities...
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that plan and triggers for additional cuts in that plan if say the savings would come from iraq and afghanistan and don't materialize and votes on a balanced budget amendment but what the democrats reviews to do is tie an increase in the debt ceiling to passing the balanced budget amendment. you can see the rough outlines of a deal. any deal would have to go back to the house. would these conservatives especially tea party members that speaker boehner had to make concessions to, what would they do if it comes back monday night just hours before the deadline, would they vote for that? >> 201 votes in favor of this legislation. right now 196. take a look. as of now 12 republicans have bolted from the leadership from john boehner, the speaker, and eric cantor the majority leader and right now 12 republicans have voted against and still not there. 216. there is still plenty of time left. nine minutes plus for this vote to conclude. it's a fascinating development as you say. by the way, we're told john boehner was mulling around and didn't seem overly concerned but it is still not a done deal yet. o
that plan and triggers for additional cuts in that plan if say the savings would come from iraq and afghanistan and don't materialize and votes on a balanced budget amendment but what the democrats reviews to do is tie an increase in the debt ceiling to passing the balanced budget amendment. you can see the rough outlines of a deal. any deal would have to go back to the house. would these conservatives especially tea party members that speaker boehner had to make concessions to, what would they...